Wednesday, May 21, 2008

How do you KNOW that you are saved?

Man, this video just sticks a knife in your gut and twists!

Paul Washer - "How do you KNOW that you believe?" "If you don't have a new relationship with sin you don't have a new relationship with Christ!"

Pay close attention from the 2:00 to the 2:45 mark... BIF! POW! THWACK!

Go Brother Washer!

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mirele said...

This is my gut response to that video:

I went through more than one period where I was obsessed about my sins. It did me no good. Listening to Paul Washer brought all that back to me.

I'd rather go to hell than be so obsessed over the fact that I continued to sin and was not perfect. I even seriously considered suicide as a way to eliminate my sin management problem. On more than one occasion, in fact. That's where garbage like Paul Washer's preachments leads some people.

There is no "my yoke is easy and my burden light" from Paul Washer. Instead, what we get is questioning of salvation, uneasiness and radical uncertainty. And for those of us with obsessive-compulsive tendencies, that's a recipe for disaster right there.

Your message is NO GOOD if you have to continually scare people into being right with Jesus with the threat of unconfessed, unforgiven sin. No Thanks!

Anonymous said...

The preaching of Paul Washer has changed my life and led me to a fuller and more humble appreciation of The Gospel.

The previous poster stated "I'd rather go to hell than be so obsessed over the fact that I continued to sin and was not perfect" For one to say they'd choose hell over any amount of suffering here in this life I think shows a failure to grasp the seriousness and absolute horridness of suffering the wrath of a Holy God for all eternity. If it takes obsessing over my continued sin until I be broken and fall at the feet of my Savior who rescues me from my deserved punishment then so be it! Does anyone remember the testimony of Martin Luther?

These excerpts of Paul Washer are taken from a sermon he does titled "Examine Yourself" which draws from scripture in 2 Corinthians and 1 John.

2 Corinthians 13:5
Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you—unless, of course, you fail the test?

1 John 2:3-6
We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands. The man who says, "I know him," but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But if anyone obeys his word, God's love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did.

1 John 3:4-10
Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness. But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin. No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him. Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. He who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work. No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God. This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother.

These aren't the words of Paul Washer...they are the words of God. Paul points us to scripture to see what God says about walking in the narrow way (Matthew 7:14). Not only is the gate small, but the road is narrow also and only a few find it!

Paul Washer points out that all are sinners, but what's being referred to in the above passages is a style of life. Are you living a life in the spirit, sensitive to sin, walking in righteousness, or can you sin with reckless abandon feeling no conviction at all but (to borrow from Mr. Washer) "Praise Jesus, you're saved!"?

Living in the truth of The Gospel is not obsessing over continued sin (and that is not Paul's message) but living in the truth of The Gospel happens when one having been regenerated by the Lord, with new desires and a new relationship to sin, falls at the feet of Jesus with a joy, relief and gratitude that words can't express.


Jon@TheWay said...

Jeremomoomo JE..J-E-R-E-M-O... (whew),

Thank you for spending your valuable time (saving me time) responding to mirele's comment.

I was going to respond this evening but you have saved me the typing by putting my words much more eloquently than I would have.

God bless you.