Monday, July 7, 2008

TODD BENTLEY: Emma is Back! - Or is he her brother??

Wow! Miriam at EndTimesProphetic posted new developments concerning Todd's "angel". You know,... the one he used to call "Emma" and described as a "mothering" she-angel... Well, it seems that now Emma has become a he-angel, which much more closely matches the description of Emma-O, the male demon "King of Hell". And since this demon has a twin sister, Todd's back-and-forth story now actually makes more sense... because Todd's angel is a demon(s?) from hell... not an angel from heaven! (See Pat Holliday's paper concerning "Emma-o"

(See our original post where Todd changed his story the first time HERE!)

Here’s the latest account of Todd’s encounter with Emma, now an unnamed male angel, taken from his recently published "Reality of the Supernatural World":

“A while ago, Bob Jones told me about an angel that helped birth the entire prophetic movement in Kansas City in the 1980s. The Lord had sent this angel to help nurture the prophetic ministry (and gift), at a time when it was being re-established in the modern-day church in North America.

“A few weeks after our conversation, I attended a church service in Beulah, North Dakota. In the middle of the meeting an angel glided in. As I stared wide-eyed at the angel, I heard the Lord tell me that this was the same angel that was involved with the prophetic movement in Kansas City. The angel floated a couple of inches off the floor emitting a brilliant light and colors. He appeared young–about 22 years old–but old at the same time. It was as though he carried the wisdom, virtue, and grace of Proverbs 31.

“He carried bags and pulled gold out of them...

...Then as he walked up and down the aisles, he put gold dust on people. “God, what is happening?” The Lord answered that the angel was releasing gold, which represents both the revelation and the financial breakthrough that He was bringing into that church. At the Lord’s direction, I announced that the same angel that appeared in Kansas City had showed up in the meeting as a sign that the Lord was endorsing and releasing a prophetic spirit in the church.”

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This account seems suspiciously familiar with something else I read. This is virtually word for word the same as Todd’s original claims re Emma, angel of the prophetic as per here http://www.etpv.org/2003/angho.html.

Same prophet Bob Jones who tells Todd about this angel,

same job and identity for the angel as one who births the prophetic in Kansas City,

same place Beulah where Todd sees the angel,

same story and description,

same wording -

virtually everything is the same except the angel’s sex and name.


However, Todd Bentley or his editor is stupid enough to have left in the reference to Proverbs 31 which is about the wife of noble character - how on earth can this apply to a male angel?

(HERE IS TODD'S PREVIOUS DESCRIPTION OF EMMA)

“Now let me talk about an angelic experience with Emma. Twice Bob Jones asked me about this angel that was in Kansas City in 1980: “Todd, have you ever seen the angel by the name of Emma?” He asked me as if he expected that this angel was appearing to me. Surprised, I said, “Bob, who is Emma?” He told me that Emma was the angel that helped birth and start the whole prophetic movement in Kansas City in the 1980s. She was a mothering-type angel that helped nurture the prophetic as it broke out. Within a few weeks of Bob asking me about Emma, I was in a service in Beulah, North Dakota. In the middle of the service I was in conversation with Ivan and another person when in walks Emma. As I stared at the angel with open eyes, the Lord said, “Here’s Emma.” I’m not kidding. She floated a couple of inches off the floor. It was almost like Kathryn Khulman in those old videos when she wore a white dress and looked like she was gliding across the platform. Emma appeared beautiful and young-about 22 years old-but she was old at the same time. She seemed to carry the wisdom, virtue and grace of Proverbs 31 on her life.
She glided into the room, emitting brilliant light and colors. Emma carried these bags and began pulling gold out of them. Then, as she walked up and down the aisles of the church, she began putting gold dust on people. “God, what is happening?” I asked. The Lord answered: “She is releasing the gold, which is both the revelation and the financial breakthrough that I am bringing into this church. I want you to prophecy that Emma showed up in this service-the same angel that appeared in Kansas city-as a sign that I am endorsing and releasing a prophetic spirit in the church.” See, when angels come, they always come for a reason; we need to actually ask God what the purpose is. Within three weeks of that visitation, the church had given me the biggest offering I had ever received to that point in my ministry. Thousands of dollars! Thousands! Even though the entire community consisted of only three thousand people, weeks after I left the church the pastor testified that the church offerings had either doubled or tripled.

I believe Emma released a financial and prophetic anointing in that place. That was the first angel that I have ever seen in the form of a woman. Some angels I’ve seen seemed like they were neither male nor female. However, Emma appeared as a woman who was like a Deborah, like a mother in Zion. When she came, she began to mentor, nurture and opened up a prophetic well. The people in the church began having trances and visions and the pastor began getting words of knowledge and moving in healing. That congregation also saw more financial breakthrough than they had ever seen before.”

How on earth can any Todd Bentley fan defend this type of consistent and persistant lying? Really?

I have recorded literally dozens of brazen lies coming out of Todd Bentley’s mouth in the past few weeks (and I do not mean the scriptural lies which are numerous on top of this). How can this possibly be a man of God?


NOTE FROM "LIVING IN THE WAY": Come on, Todd! Get your story straight and tell us if you saw Emma or his sister!

Todd's problem is not that he has no power, miracles, signs or wonders to claim as backing for his ministry,... Todd's problem is that he has the Word of God knocking down nearly everything he tries to make stand as backing for the authenticity of his ministry!

And all you who defend Todd as being a "man of God"... FIRST tell us how you defend this constantly changing yarn of lies and deception Todd keeps spinning,... then maybe we'll listen to you try to defend Todd's false prophecies, unbiblical teachings, blasphemies, etc!

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4 comments:

pat holliday said...

Todd Bentley~ Peter Wagner ~Star Gates~ Synchromysticism~ the Wizards of the NEW AGE Christ ~ New Age Light of Lucifer
TAKING A GENERATION FOR THEIR GODS
Fantasy- dramatic magical – Si-fi -- Milky-Way Christianity has arrived. Synchronism of Christianity with mysticism is now at the center of the world’s stage which I view as an attempt of using dramatic magic to become concepts take their quantum leap to godhood. These ministers are wizards and witches of the New Age. They think of themselves as the sages of the Christian Church to bring it to a new mystical age of supernaturalism to join their gods, the Ascended Masters of the New Age.
“For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. “ (Gen 3:5).KJV
STARGATES
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-imN9RiFVns&feature=related
WHO WILL YOU FOLLOW? TODD BENTLEY AND PETER WAGNER AND HIS APOSTLES PROPHETS OR JESUS?
“How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only? “ (Jn. 5:44).KJV
“That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life,” (Jn. 3:15-16).
ALEISTER CROWLEY AND ANTICHRIST REVIVAL
I find evidences of powerful connections with these New Age Christian’s doctrines of opening the Star Gates and the famous Satanist Aleister Crowley? This Satanist investigated other dimensional beings and attempted to create a dimensional vortex star gate. He wanted to bridge the gap between the world of the seen and the unseen. He developed a ritual called the
Alamantria Working and according to Crowley, he became successful when he conjured up a presence manifested itself. He called this being “Lamb” that is amazingly similar to the modern pop culture of the greys.
Fifty years later: Jack Parsons, October 2, 1914 – died June 17, 1952), was an American rocket propulsion researcher at the California Institute of Technology and co-founder of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) and Aerojet Corporation. He was also an enthusiastic occultist, and one of the earliest American devotees of Aleister Crowley did another ritual called the Babylon Working. He wanted to incarnate the spirit of Babylon to our current generation. Parsons was also an avid practitioner of the occult arts, and a follower of Thelema. He saw no contradiction between his scientific and magical pursuits: before each rocket test launch, Parsons would invoke the god Pan.
QUANTUM LEAP INTO GODHOOD AND NEW AGE
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3822823/-Todd-Bentley-Peter-Wagner-Star-Gates-Synchromysticism-the-Wizards-of-the-NEW-AGE-Christ-

destinycreature said...

Something is VERY VERY VERY wrong with Todd Bentley. Its amazing how so many people are deceived by his act. He just may be the false prophet who paves the way for the Antichrist, I wouldn't doubt it at all, the rate he's going. It seems as if he knows no limits, he just gets from bad to worse every time I see him.

John the concerned said...

Another lie/tale that Mr. Bentley has given 3 differnt account on is his encounter a the conference where he went to heaven and landed on an operating table. Here is the video link (http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/3399535/) another different account here(www.etpv.org/2003/livits.html)
or here (www.elijahlist.com/words/display_word.html?ID=1512 - 53k)
and the third completely different account is here (http://www.freshfire.ca/index.php?Act=read&status=teaching&Id=237&bid).
The way I figure it, if he can't tell the truth about these heavenly visits, what other stuff is he just making up?

John the concerned said...

Also a sight that brings all of these together is (http://www.letusreason.org/Latrain39.htm)