tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7177469837373285045.post302959842308028880..comments2011-08-30T17:44:37.718-05:00Jon@TheWaynoreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7177469837373285045.post-28925683895119621072010-12-07T11:20:52.102-06:002010-12-07T11:20:52.102-06:00David Wilkerson claims not to be a prophet but only a watchman . I don&#39;t agree with everything he says especially the book he wrote on sipping saints or his teaching on alcohol. We are supppose to keep what we believe about those things to ourselves. Nevertheless, I highly respect David, and I think inspite of his many mistakes (Which he admits) he is a humble man on God.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7177469837373285045.post-79103486373913570582010-12-07T11:19:37.615-06:002010-12-07T11:19:37.615-06:00David Wilkerson claims not to be a prophet but only a watchman . I don&#39;t agree with everything he says especially the book he wrote on sipping saints or his teaching on alcohol. We are supppose to keep what we believe about those things to ourselves. Nevertheless, I highly respect David, and I think inspite of his many mistakes (Which he admits) he is a humble man on God.ajhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04688408575628832576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7177469837373285045.post-77585537719939074262010-03-24T05:09:24.628-05:002010-03-24T05:09:24.628-05:00Wow! A whole year later and no calamity! The prophecy specifically referred to US cities so the Haiti earthquake doesn&#39;t count. But could the Obamacare bill provoke rioting? I don&#39;t know, but my instincts are to pin the false prophet label on David Wilkerson.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7177469837373285045.post-20943422823688798992009-04-02T02:52:00.000-05:002009-04-02T02:52:00.000-05:00Hi Jon,<BR/><BR/>Went through your comments abour David Wilkerson.<BR/><BR/>I just wanted to add that to my surprise he has written the same warnign for food supply in his book called "God's plan to protect his people in the coming depression" and it is so strange cause he gives specific advices on food store suply and first aid medical thign ect...?!!!!! <BR/>Well I almsot belived it before when I received his warnign lately and almost made the msitake to focus on his words rather than on the Bible which is enough for every chirstian, but now I think is better to turn on the right way :JESUS<BR/>Thanks for your advice and your post, very well explained.<BR/><BR/>Peace to you,<BR/><BR/>ABJAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7177469837373285045.post-34306217774273382062009-03-24T09:50:00.000-05:002009-03-24T09:50:00.000-05:00Andrew... re-read (or read since it doesn't look like you did) my comment 4 places above. Predictions that come to pass do not make a true biblical prophet.<BR/><BR/>The Bible says he is a false prophet... and Wilkerson himself has said he has wondered if he was a false prophet as well, because of his failed words.Jon@TheWayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18271591704116800089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7177469837373285045.post-32733563108787305682009-03-22T16:46:00.000-05:002009-03-22T16:46:00.000-05:00Very interesting article by Pastor Wilkerson. It is sobering but probably a very timely wakeup call to the Church and all Christians. In my opinion it is time to review our priorities and to “Seek First the Kingdom of God”...<BR/>Further research brought me to this interesting new blog: http://letscompare.blogspot.com/<BR/>It contains a very impressive (and sobering) list of Pastor Wilkerson’s 1973 prophecies with references from media reports that suggest possible “fulfillment”. That might answer your original question: "DAVID WILKERSON: Is this a true Word from God?"Andrew Murrayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02404866990984853055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7177469837373285045.post-37575205219567892392009-03-13T20:11:00.000-05:002009-03-13T20:11:00.000-05:00I accept your thanks tho you are caustic and bitter sounding. We all have room to grow in Christ tho. No one has or knows it all as you seem to think you do (as your 6th comment indicates). Perhaps those who are scared by the Wilkerson warning are realizing they need to know God better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7177469837373285045.post-43943073282035340312009-03-13T19:41:00.000-05:002009-03-13T19:41:00.000-05:001) What (seriously,... what?) did I twist to make a point?<BR/>The fact is that you misused the story of Joseph to make it fit Wilkerson&#39;s &quot;prophecy&quot;? I twisted nothing.<BR/><BR/>2)MY point was that NO... God was NOT loving and graceful to the false prophets. He said to ignore them. Or kill them if they turned his people away from Him to other Gods. Deuteronomy 13 &amp; 18. (I&#39;m not implying we are to kill anyone... that&#39;s a whole different lesson) New Testament teaching tells us to ignore them because we in the last days are spoken to through His Son, Jesus... no longer through the Old Testament-type of prophets who spoke in &quot;times past&quot;. (Hebrews 1)<BR/><BR/>3)It IS loving to show people what the Bible (God) says versus what any man says in the name of God. I believe I am commanded to speak against the prophets who do not speak God&#39;s Words (like Ezekiel) (Ez 3:18-19), otherwise their blood is on my hands.<BR/><BR/>4)The point was that, like Wilkerson, Jim Jones did good deeds in the &quot;name&quot; of his idea of his &quot;jesus&quot; so good deeds do not a prophet make. I agree his jesus was not Jesus... and I agree that Wilkerson&#39;s IS... still not the point.<BR/><BR/>5)This word from Dave Wilkerson is something that (should not have) but HAS ALREADY sparked fear in many who love a god of their own making and in many who love God but do not yet understand that the Bible is ALL THEY NEED to be prepared for anything. (back to II Timothy 3)<BR/><BR/>6)I&#39;m not sure what &quot;seeking God in a deeper way&quot; means because I am complete in Him and by His Word with nothing lacking. (Colossians 2:10, II Peter 1:3) I am prepared for anything that is to come because the Holy Spirit dwells within me... not because I listen to somebody telling me to store up 30 days worth of food.<BR/><BR/>Please Mr Anonymous...<BR/>Come see me again in a month or two or six and we&#39;ll discuss the events of the world that warranted this &quot;Urgent Warning&quot;. Let the nukes fall and I&#39;ll still stand behind every word that I&#39;ve typed here. I&#39;ll also be provided for, in whatever way God sees fit, even if He lets me die from starvation trusting Him instead of canned goods and military rations. He allowed the Apostles to be martyred. To die is gain. Grace to you. Thanks for the comments.Jon@TheWayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18271591704116800089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7177469837373285045.post-16762805087889799382009-03-13T17:35:00.000-05:002009-03-13T17:35:00.000-05:00Your answer is not worth the energy it takes to reply in a defensive way. You seem to twist everything to fit whatever point you want to make. <BR/><BR/>Yes, God was loving and graceful to false prophets. However I am refering to the fact that he wants US to be loving and graceful to each other, even those we do not agree with or that hurt us. We can only do that in God's power as we are incapable of doing this on our own.<BR/><BR/>Jim Jones may have preached Jesus but it was not the real Jesus. Men and women have killed their own children in what they claim is the name of Jesus. Jesus is the Lamb God sent so we can know God and have God's love in us. <BR/><BR/>This word from Dave Wilkerson is not something that should spark fear in anyone who loves God. We can seek God in a deeper way and prepare ourselves for anything that is to come. No matter what happens God is there for those who love him and he brings deep joy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7177469837373285045.post-59091846724325412692009-03-13T12:13:00.000-05:002009-03-13T12:13:00.000-05:00You said "Wasn't Joseph told to store up food in Genesis??" <BR/><BR/>No. Joseph was NOT told (by God or anyone else) to store up food. If anything, Joseph did what David Wilkerson did... He gave "advice" to Pharaoh to "store up food"... God NEVER said to do it. The difference between Joseph and David Wilkerson is that Pharoah's dream (from God) showed him specifically what would happen... and Joseph reacted to that. Wilkerson's "word" has shown him no specifics, except "1000 fires". (GOD'S WORDS TO THE PROPHETS WERE ALWAYS SPECIFIC, EVEN IF NOT FULLY UNDERSTOOD) When God wants us to react to His Word, He makes sure we CAN! If you want to parallel Wilkerson to that story, he would be the Pharaoh who had a dream, but no understanding. Joseph (the "man of God") had the specifics... WITH the benefit of not ever having been a "false prophet". <BR/><BR/>You said "Wilkerson has risked his life many times to bring God's Word to others such as he did with the gangs of New York. His life has been dedicated to God and God has used him mightily."<BR/><BR/>I sincerely thank God for his work as well.. but so what? Does that make His "prophecy" true? If something "big" happens, does THAT make his prophecy true? No... he has already FAILED the "true prophet" test!<BR/><BR/>You said "Have you read his book 'The Vision'? This was written in 1973 when these things he said were unthinkable. Most have already happened. Check out the recent TV program Family Guy. I did not see it but saw clips of it and it is just one type of event he warned about. In a times of prosperity he warned about major economic problems. God warns us ahead of time, sometimes decades and sometimes only a short time ahead of the event."<BR/><BR/>God warned us THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO about ALL of this "calamity"!<BR/><BR/>As for his book, it was pragmatically CLEAR in 1973 the direction the USA and the World was headed. <BR/><BR/>The Kinsey Sexuality Reports of the late 40's and early 50's affected the sexual and moral ideals of a generation and resulted in the "free love" and "casual sex" ideals of the 60's and 70's. <BR/><BR/>In 1968 pornography was declared legal for use "in the privacy of your home" by the Supreme Court. SEXUAL IMMORALITY WILL BE PUNISHED<BR/><BR/>Nixon dumped the gold standard in 1971 -- ECONOMIC FAILURE is certain when NOTHING backs paper currency.<BR/><BR/>Roe Vs. Wade occurred in 1973... A nation that passes LEGAL MURDER is doomed.<BR/><BR/>It goes on and on... <BR/>I don't think I care to let "Family Guy" prove God's Word! But if one wanted to try, one could have likely "proven" pragmatically all that Wilkerson wrote in his book by watching "All in The Family" the same year he wrote it!<BR/><BR/>The Biblical requirements for a prophet are NOT that his "words" come true! But that ALL of his "Words from God", impressions from the Holy Spirit, messages from Jesus, god-given visions, etc COME TRUE AND LINE UP WITH SCRIPTURE.<BR/>David Wilkerson has already failed<BR/><BR/>I did not argue that Wilkerson doesn't preach Jesus, salvation and repentance. (But so did Jim Jones at one time, so we obviously can't use THAT evidence to say He's a "true prophet")<BR/><BR/>You said: "This prophecy should be heeded or at least respected instead of picked apart as you have done."<BR/><BR/>So "the Word of God" can rightly be only "at least respected?" Does the God of "Obedience is better than Sacrifice" change. Did he not REQUIRE that all of his Words to the Prophets be obeyed? My point is not that we are under OT requirements of the LAW, but that God never changes and IF GOD SPEAKS... HE REQUIRES THAT WE HEAR AND HEED HIS WORDS!<BR/><BR/>Sir...We ARE COMMANDED to "pick apart" or "test" any and all claimed prophecies or "Words from God" (I Thess 5:21) The only way to do that is using scripture which I have done. (II Tim 3:16-17)<BR/><BR/>You said " Love and grace are god's gifts to us. Please remember you are not exempt."<BR/><BR/>You mean in the same way that God was loving and graceful to the false prophets?Jon@TheWayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18271591704116800089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7177469837373285045.post-242043166498150542009-03-13T10:46:00.000-05:002009-03-13T10:46:00.000-05:00Wasn't Joseph told to store up food in Genesis?? Wilkerson is recommending a 30 days supply not a celler full of food. Your comment on obeying the Word of laying in a 30 day supply of food or sinning is twisting what he said.<BR/><BR/>Wilkerson has risked his life many times to bring God's Word to others such as he did with the gangs of New York. His life has been dedicated to God and God has used him mightily<BR/><BR/>Have you read his book 'The Vision'? This was written in 1973 when these things he said were unthinkable. Most have already happened. Check out the recent TV program Family Guy. I did not see it but saw clips of it and it is just one type of event he warned about. In a times of prosperity he warned about major economic problems. God warns us ahead of time, sometimes decades and sometimes only a short time ahead of the event.<BR/><BR/>Wilkerson preaches Jesus, salvation and repentance. He is a true man of God which is a rare thing today. This prophecy should be heeded or at least respected instead of picked apart as you have done. You claim to be confused but you are being critical. Love and grace are god's gifts to us. Please remember you are not exempt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7177469837373285045.post-34008400034721347382009-03-12T10:53:00.000-05:002009-03-12T10:53:00.000-05:00EXTRA: I would also like to point out the CONFUSION and QUESTIONING (within the so-called "church") that brother Wilkerson's message has caused! Hundreds of hits to this page came from people asking GOOGLE if David Wilkerson is a false prophet!!! Why can't these same Christians rightly divide the truth by measuring Wilkerson's words to GOD'S WORD instead of Google's Word...? Let calamity and destruction come tomorrow and I will still say that Brother Wilkerson's prophecy is not Biblically God's Word because God's Word says to ignore him based on his past failed prophecies. Calamity is PROMISED in the Bible. Only God knows when. If you are IN CHRIST, you have no need of worrying about tomorrow. Call me a fool... but that's what the TRUE Word of God told me!Jon@TheWayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18271591704116800089noreply@blogger.com