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The cowardly way out is not really a way out at al...

2009-04-13T19:28:00.000-05:00

The cowardly way out is not really a way out at all but there is a lot of money to be made out of all this and deception pays well.
"Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.Ephesians 4v19"

Who being past feeling have given themselves over ...

2009-04-13T19:25:00.000-05:00

Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness,,,,to work all uncleanness with Greediness.Eph4v19
take it back to saddleback

Richard doesn't need to read Transitioning, the en...

2008-08-16T06:07:00.000-05:00

Richard doesn't need to read Transitioning, the entire Purpose Driven model is a Machiavellian power play. Why replace biblical Christianity with a political faux-Christian branded franchise model to spread the gospel?

Maybe Obama and McCain will ask Rick.

TERR: Mr. Abanes decided to take the easy and cowa...

2008-07-31T16:34:00.000-05:00

TERR: Mr. Abanes decided to take the easy and cowardly path...of attempting to forcefully shut down the discussion that offended him.

RA: I DID NOT request that Silva's website be taken down. I have in my possession an email from IPOWER telling me very clearly that when they are alerted to an ALLEGED infraction of their TOS agreement by a client, they "investigate promptly" and then they "take appropriate action."

Well, they apparently did "investigate promptly" and subsequently took what they deemed to be "take appropriate action."

What this means is that Ken Silva actually had violated the TOS agreement he had entered with his ISP. I simply called this fact to IPOWER's attention—and that is not against the Bible.

Ken's ISP gave him a clear and simple choice: a) remove the offending article; or b) have the website shut down. It was Silva who chose to deliberately have his website shut down by defiantly refusing to follow his ISP's TOS agreement, which they seemed to think he had violated after they received my notification.
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TERR: Abanes has been reading "Transitioning" By Dan Southerland, I'll bet~!

RA: Never read it.
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TERR: which promotes such machiavellian power plays

RA: Goodness, gracious. Writing a simple complaint to an ISP is HARDLY a machiavellian power play. What is alarming to me is how no one seems to be raising a word of criticisms about even worse attempts to silence me that have been made by others, including Lighthouse Trails (see this article) and Warren critic Chris Rosebrough (see this article) .

RICHARD ABANES

Another cat and dog fight is yet taking place with...

2008-07-29T20:59:00.000-05:00

Another cat and dog fight is yet taking place with the usual suspects often referred to as "discernment" ministries, some of whom I have spoken of in my article "Gift of Discernment or Gossip" on my blog. Somewhere in between "he said, she said, tit for tat" lies the truth. This certainly does nothing to further the Gospel of Christ, and puts all believers in a bad light everywhere. The big winner here is satan and his demons and non believers, who must be having a great laugh over this one.

To witness the strife and discord Ken Silva and Ingrid (and their supporters have involved themselves in, "all in the name of "discernment" for Christ, by not doing the right thing by taking the offensive material from his website down,go to Richard Abanes site here http://richardabanes.wordpress.com/2008/07/26/more-arguments-ingrid-schlueter-speaks/#comment-270 and read the nasty, mean spirited remarks from Ken Silva's supporters and then read the remarks from Richard Abanes. How godly is this? Wouldn't it just have been better for Ken Silva of Apprising Ministries, who claims he is a pastor, to swollow his pride, take on the humility of Christ and the Apostle Paul, and take the offensive material down and be in compliance w/the Lord's Word?

I will quote a few scriptures concerning quarreling and causing strife among Christians, which are very pertinent to what is happening here:

Galatians 5:19-21
Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Proverbs 10:12
Hatred stirs up strife, but love covers all offenses.

2 Timothy 2:23-25
Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know they breed quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth.

Ken Silva started this entire controversy, strife and division among other Christians in my honest opinion when he could have prevented it all, made an attempt to assassinate the character of Richard Abanes, whom I don't even know and choose to have his site taken down rather than swollow his pride and apologize by taking the offensive material down; and is now playing the role of a persecuted martyr. He tried to assassinate the character of Ray Comfort because he disagreed w/him. Ken Silva is not God Almighty and people do not have to answer to him. When are these people who call themselves discernment ministries, all in the name of Christ, going to learn that the public internet is not a forum where they cannot assassinate the character of someone they disagree with and will be held accountable? This makes all of Christianity look bad. Disagree fine. Point out errors using the Bible fine. But to assassinate another's character as these two voices in particular attempt to do is just plain wrong and unbiblical. I urge all to read the remarks on Mr. Abanes blog to gain more insight and truth of what actually happened here before just hearing one side of the story. Like I said, I don't even know Mr. Abanes, and I am in no way endorsing any of his writings; but after reading the remarks from Ken Silva's followers, who are supposedly Christian people, I certainly could never defend Ken Silva and his cohorts.

And to keep this controversy brewing, Ken Silva, rather the putting it behind him and moving forward, has started it all over again on his "new site" even against the wise biblical counsel from the above scriptures. Is this the type of pastor you would have teach your children and family?

Thank you for the excellent article in defense of ...

2008-07-29T17:03:00.000-05:00

Thank you for the excellent article in defense of Pastor Silva. I pray all these happenings will open the eyes of Christians to the Truth, and what can happen when when people don't want the Truth to be told. As I tell Pator Ken, keep the armor on and the sword polished! You'll need it also as you stand for Truth.

Mr. Abanes decided to take the easy and cowardl...

2008-07-29T16:43:00.000-05:00
Mr. Abanes decided to take the easy and cowardly path...of attempting to forcefully shut down the discussion that offended him.

No surprise there. Abanes has been reading "Transitioning" By Dan Southerland, I'll bet~! (the one with the glowing endorsement by Rick Warren at the front, and which promotes such machiavellian power plays).