tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7177469837373285045.post9035247960874279428..comments2011-04-18T09:23:08.255-05:00Jon@TheWaynoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7177469837373285045.post-69743376162892285662008-07-22T00:10:00.000-05:002008-07-22T00:10:00.000-05:00Could Todd Bentley be another Jim Jones? In the early stages of his ministry there are striking similarities between Bentley and Jones. In 1955, Jones was prayed for a Latter Rain Pentecostal Conference by O.L. Jaggers who pronounced that he had a very special prophetic calling on his life. Years later when he founded the People’s Temple, Jones used faith healing to draw the masses much in the same way Bentley has in Lakeland. It may be a little premature to say Bentley is treading the same course as Jones, but I think it is a possibility we must be aware of. After all no one ever thought Jones would go to the extent he did by getting 918 people to commit suicide through drinking kool-aid laced with cyanide. Bentley’s claims show that he is very dangerous spiritually as he has placed much emphasis on angels, third heaven experiences, and has claimed experiences where his spirit left his body which is known to New Agers as astral projection. Could Bentley be even more than just a spiritual danger? Could he be leading his followers down the same course that Jim Jones led the People’s Temple in 1978 to the greatest mass cult suicide in history? I am drawing the comparisons and revealing Bentley’s false teachings at http://www.toddbentleyjimjones.blogspot.comCHADECHISMSONFAITHANDLIFEhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16282175308802060932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7177469837373285045.post-14273768000993503262008-07-12T19:24:00.000-05:002008-07-12T19:24:00.000-05:00I'm sorry... I'm not sure what you mean, Diane. I'm dense sometimes.<BR/><BR/>On discernment, I (purposefully)rarely use the "D" word because so many have been brainwashed with an incorrect definition. <BR/><BR/>But my entire site is full of pleas calling people to be discerners by the biblical definition!<BR/><BR/>Also, I am definitely a "Third Wave charismatic critic"... so, please write back to clarify what you mean...Jon@TheWayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18271591704116800089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7177469837373285045.post-54238173820590160432008-07-12T18:08:00.000-05:002008-07-12T18:08:00.000-05:00Good post Jon. But, I haven't seen the "D" word used here yet. But then I don't hear it often anywhere except from the Third Wave Charismatic critics...Discernment.Diane Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02442757505452061995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7177469837373285045.post-17327780155497005332008-07-12T14:10:00.000-05:002008-07-12T14:10:00.000-05:00Diane,<BR/><BR/>The HUGE problem is that pentecostals/charismatics are not limited in their beliefs by the word of God... <BR/><BR/>Since they say God CAN do anything, (even when it is obvious that He does NOT do the crazy things that many promote) many are scared to draw any lines in the sand. But God already drew the lines and built the fence.<BR/><BR/>When I was little we sang "The B-I-B-L-E, yes that's the book for me! I stand upon the Word of God. The B-I-B-L-E!" <BR/><BR/>If something taught, believed, or performed that can not be directly measured by the Bible, it is shifting sand and should be avoided. You will soon fall if you follow it! <BR/><BR/>The Assemblies of God must rehash this stuff over and over because, at least recently, they REFUSE to apply what they found to be biblical truth in past incidents to call out those who teach that which is extra-biblical today.<BR/><BR/>I know, I know... driving a car is extra-biblical... blah, blah, blah... <BR/><BR/>The extra-biblical stuff we must measure only by the Bible are those things which deal with: <BR/><BR/>(a)the spiritual realm, <BR/>(b)moral/sin issues, and <BR/>(c)relational issues in the Body of Christ and with the unredeemed... <BR/><BR/>The Bible does not deal DIRECTLY with curling your hair... is it sin?... or not? Can we know by applying the Word of God? -- YES!<BR/><BR/>Using the Bible to gauge whether or not you should get your hair curled is simple... the question should be reduced to a moral/sin issue. <BR/><BR/>Will you curl your hair due to your sinful pride or as an attempt to seduce,... or will you do it simply in a desire to arbitrarily do something different that day, like wearing pink as opposed to red. Preference does not equal pride. I prefer my hair parted on the right, yet it is not a pride issue. And it is therefore not sin.<BR/><BR/>The Bible is useful for deciding ALL things and you are complete and thoroughly furnished if you read it and heed it.<BR/><BR/>Thank God for some of the charismatics and pentecostals who are limited in what they accept to those things that are clearly biblical.<BR/><BR/>Pray for the rest of them, because they are like fish sniffing a worm on a hook.Jon@TheWayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18271591704116800089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7177469837373285045.post-20986686153799454132008-07-12T12:57:00.000-05:002008-07-12T12:57:00.000-05:00This is almost funny if it wasn't so sad. Perhaps you AG's need ANOTHER propostion to affirm Propostion 16 which was presented to the AG in 1999 which tried to uphold the first propostion passed in 1949. Or, just maybe, the AG could memorize what was passed in 1949 concerning the Latter Rain teachings and paste it on their foreheads.Diane Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02442757505452061995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7177469837373285045.post-68322811901319892322008-07-11T22:13:00.000-05:002008-07-11T22:13:00.000-05:00<I>QUOTE:God forbid they would dare take a stand one way or another. Stay lukewarm. Straddle the fence! Don't ruffle any feathers.</I><BR/><BR/>Amen Child Of God Amen! It's time to take a stand for righteousness and for the TRUE power fo God!1PASTR4Unoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7177469837373285045.post-75967941873140401542008-07-11T22:12:00.000-05:002008-07-11T22:12:00.000-05:00FROM A COMMENT HERE:<BR/>http://forums.charismamag.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2794<BR/><BR/>In otherwords, Dr. Wood would rather shuffle the test they provided in their "Statement on Revival" to the pastors in the field and to the sheep as well and let them figure it out for themselves, asking the pastors and sheep to do the very thing that the leadership itself is unwilling to do. What leadership! What a cop out....what cowardice. How spineless.<BR/><BR/>Instead of "political correctness", would this be "religious correctness"?<BR/><BR/>God forbid they would dare take a stand one way or another. Stay lukewarm. Straddle the fence! Don't ruffle any feathers.KafirCrusadernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7177469837373285045.post-15206737343496048502008-07-11T15:24:00.000-05:002008-07-11T15:24:00.000-05:00Thank you for your work in getting Dr. Wood's take on this. I am a lifelong AGer, his word may not hold much weight with many AG pastors. I trust he will see through this false revival and distance the AG from Lakeland and Bentley. It is also good to hear that Dr. Wood feels Branham is an heretic. Branham is a hero to many of the kook Charasmatic faction. The AG needs to get back to basics of Christianity, reaching lost souls for Christ. Healing in someones physical body or gold teeth or gold dust or angel feathers or BAM has never saved anyone. God help us and forgive all of us, we have strayed from our calling. LeeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7177469837373285045.post-75590406185151671342008-07-11T12:19:00.000-05:002008-07-11T12:19:00.000-05:00Since T. Bentley is not an AoG pastor, it makes sense that he did not receive a letter. However, one has to wonder whether S. Stader, who <I>is</I> an AoG pastor, may have received a letter or other communication.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com